Final Tribal Council Discussion

[Becky]

So does anyone care to bring up any points before they post their opening stuff? Ralph, I know you were close to Cochran. Can you speak on his behalf for anything because his game is sort of a mess for me just looking from the outside and in. And if Vytas wants to be a mature adult, you were his partner so if you want to give any insight, I'd appreciate it.

[Semhar]

I like Cochran a bunch, but I can't possibly vote him to win after that final 4 shit storm.

[Caryn]

I already know who I'm voting for but I still want to fucking spill some shit, y'know?

[Semhar]

The fact that Ibe survived after I thought he was going to get FUCKED UP at final 4, and how he somehow convinced at least one person that he wasn't the best option and Vytas was, is good enough for me to think that Ibe deserves the win.

I'll ask some questions, but honestly, Ibe handled the endgame better then Cochran.

[Becky]

I concur there. Why do all that work to keep Vytas in, only for you to cut his throat at the end when you needed him most? lol

[Semhar]

I concur there. Why do all that work to keep Vytas in, only for you to cut his throat at the end when you needed him most? lol

Exactly! Vytas was hated by everyone, and Ibe wasn't (and Shawn was immune).

[Ralph]

In all honesty I still don't see something wrong with voting cochran? And I was ready to base my vote on FTC performance
I guess he created A pretty mad jury and that's never good. He did piss me off yesterday though when he was mouthing Shawn when Shawn voted Ibe instead of Vytas. But other than that I honestly don't know where all the hate stems from? He was pretty boring at Tc that's for sure but did he become an asshole or something after I was booted? When I was in game he was nothing special but I never expected this much hate.

[Semhar]

In all honesty I still don't see something wrong with voting cochran? And I was ready to base my vote on FTC performance
I guess he created A pretty mad jury and that's never good. He did piss me off yesterday though when he was mouthing Shawn when Shawn voted Ibe instead of Vytas. But other than that I honestly don't know where all the hate stems from? He was pretty boring at Tc that's for sure but did he become an asshole or something after I was booted? When I was in game he was nothing special but I never expected this much hate.

I agree. I am leaning Ibe, but I have NO IDEA where the Coch hate started.

[Becky]

I address some of the points why I don't personally like him/his game in my speech, but to me he was just always very noncommittal when discussing strategy and made situations much worse than he had to. I could never see any of his own games moves because he would pawn strategy off on other people and just wouldn't really give me much to work with. Again, this is just my personal relationship with him. I know everyone is different though.

Like with Ibe, he and I were close, so I can definitely see where his head at when it came to strategy because we actually discussed making certain moves pre-merge and then when I was there in the merge. I can't say the same for Cochran.

[Becky]

Also, if I read Vytas correctly, didn't he say he was more in control of the pair? I would like Vytas' opinion on that if he reads this.

[Ralph]

Yea I'd like to hear Vee talk about it to.
Come on bud do it! DOOOO IT!

Cochran and me never really talked strategy. The most we went to is Okay here's what i'm going to do Try to get ____ out and then he'd never tell me how he would do it. I'm fairly certain he just talked to A bunch of people and then voted with majority?

[Rachel]

Honestly Cochran wasn't bad, he was just boring as shit to talk to. Though, and I know I'm 100% alone here, he did gain a lot of respect from me when he booted Vytas. Yeah it may have been pretty stupid, but still him taking out Vytas was one of the best moments of the game and made me love him so much <3

[Marissa]

Here is the thing with Ibe for me. It took BIG BALLS for him to betray his partner. That is almost guaranteeed number in your pocket. HE KNEW Cochy was going to be hated. So taking him to the end was fucking brilliant of him. Even more brilliant is the fact he got Cochran to turn on Vytas. He may not have been the fastest in the race but he knows how to win a marathon.

[Coby]

In all honesty I still don't see something wrong with voting cochran? And I was ready to base my vote on FTC performance
I guess he created A pretty mad jury and that's never good. He did piss me off yesterday though when he was mouthing Shawn when Shawn voted Ibe instead of Vytas. But other than that I honestly don't know where all the hate stems from? He was pretty boring at Tc that's for sure but did he become an asshole or something after I was booted? When I was in game he was nothing special but I never expected this much hate.

I agree. I am leaning Ibe, but I have NO IDEA where the Coch hate started.

I think I was the one to start it when I called him a rat and subsequently put small digs at him wherever I could. It was out of desperation to get things going but then he did things that weren't smart....

[Caryn]

I still haven't started on a speech, I'm watching Big Brother.

I'm not going first am I?

[Becky]

Yes, you are. But I can start. I'm ready.

[Caryn]

Fuck that. I just started.

[Frank the Tank]

Give em hell guys!

[Caryn]

Are we going in Jury order? I'm not done yet, I should be though after whoever goes first.

[Becky]

LOL @ Cochran. Why would Skinny Ryan know anything about my game play? He didn't even know me prior to this game lol.